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They had the following children:

  M i Living
  F ii Living

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They had the following children:

  F i Living
  M ii Living
  M iii Living

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They had the following children:

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  F ii Living
  M iii Living

Raymond Percy Bean [Parents] was born 1, 2 on 29 Apr 1914 in Woollahra, NSW, Australia. He died 3 on 1 Aug 2001 in Terrigal. He was buried 4 on 10 Aug 2001 in Ashes taken by family. He married 5 Living on 4 Apr 1942 in St Philips Church, Church Hill, Sydney, Australia. The marriage ended in divorce.

Other marriages:
Parkes, Hellen

Occupation, at time of marriage- commercial photographer.

Address at time of marriage- Sans Souci NSW

Sydney Bushwalkers
1941; Christmas cards, being black and white photograph Christmas card designed and made by photographer Ray Bean, member of the club, for distribution to members on active service (Locn No.: MLMSS 7074/7) NSW State Library


Memorial Service conducted at the Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens and Crematorium.
Service conducted on the 10th August 2001

TWT August 15 2001, Obituaries- BEAN, Raymond Percy- August 1, 2001. Formerly of Terrigal and Lane Cove.

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They had the following children:

  F i Living
  M ii Living
  M iii Living

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McDonald, Mary Ann

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Other marriages:
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They had the following children:

  F i Living
  F ii Living
  F iii Living

Alfred Thomas Carter [Parents] was born 1 on 12 Jan 1883 in Merri Merri Creek, Coonamble NSW, Australia. He died 2 on 24 Jun 1949 in Molong NSW, Australia. He was buried 3 in Jun 1949 in Manildra, New South Wales, Australia. He married 4 Alice Mary Cole on 14 Dec 1910 in Manildra, NSW, Australia.

(1) N.S.W. BDM Index Birth #25678-1883.
(1a) Birth Transcription born Merri Merri Creek, District of Coonamble. Informant was the father James Carter of the Junction Hotel, Merri Merri Creek. Previous issue are 6 Males and 4 Females living and one male deaceased.

Died during the cole strike. Minners wanted more money and shorter hours. Alfred Carter worked in the mines before he met Alice. Was buried during an accident and lost a lung.

Find five shillings for having a drink on a Sunday. This later meant that he had a record and was unable to become a JP.

Later in life had a carrying business, carrying wheat, wool and furniture. Had a reputation for reliability.

Had an affair with the woman who first sold Anzac Biscuits and one a 10 shilling prize for the recipe.

Had another child to a different woman, before his wedding, details are unkown. However the woman did meet Alice in Manildra at one time wanting to know what sort of a wife he had married.

Birth certificate of Jeffrey Carter shows Alfred as a labourer.

Alice Mary Cole [Parents] was born 1 on 1 Jul 1890 in Still Head, Orange, NSW, Australia. She died 2 on 3 Mar 1977 in Cudal NSW, Australia. She was buried 3 in Mar 1977 in Manildra, NSW, Australia. She married 4 Alfred Thomas Carter on 14 Dec 1910 in Manildra, NSW, Australia.

(1) N.S.W.BDM Index Birth #22195-1890.
(2) N.S.W.BDM Index Marriage #12677-1910.
(3) Alice Mary Hetterick of Gladesville. b1891. d4 March 1977. bd Meranburn.
17 Grandchildren. 39 Gr Grandchildren. 5 Gr Gr Grandchildren.

Born in Coonobles and grew up near the Cunnajor Mountains and Manildra. Left Alfred and moved to Sydney when Jeffrey was 14. Moved to Sydney to get work. Arrived in Sydney in Feb 1939 just before the war started.

They had the following children:

  F i Living
  M ii Living

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Other marriages:
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They had the following children:

  M i Living
  M ii Living

Robert Stanley Gransden [Parents] was born 1 on 3 Dec 1894 in Toogong NSW, Australia. He died 2 on 25 Nov 1956 in Orange, NSW, Australia. He was buried 3 in Nov 1956 in Orange Anglican Cemetery, NSW, Australia. He married 4 Muriel Gertrude Bryant on 11 Jul 1918 in All Saints Church Canowindra, Boree Shire.

Robert and Muriel are remembered to have lived at Glenorie, near Cowra, working as farmers. They worked on farms at Cowra and Eugowra, mostly share farming. They also once owned a General Store at Billimari.

NSW Electoral Rolls Division of Calare, Supplemental Roll- Canowindra 1917
Gransden, Robert Stanley, Billimari, Labourer, M.

NSW Electoral Rolls Division of Calare, Canowindra 1921
Gransden, Robert Stanley, Billimari, Farmer, M.

NSW Electoral Rolls Division of Calare, Canowindra 1922
Gransden, Robert Stanley, Billimari, Farmer, M.
(Change in status from farmer to labourer, probably due to receiving land from his Uncle Henry Gransden when he died in May 1921. It is believed by family members that this land was gamboled away.

Sands Directory-
1919 Robert Gransden, carter Canowindra
1921 Robert Gransden, farmer, Billimari
1922 Robert Gransden, farmer, Billimari
1923 Robert Gransden, farmer, Billimari
1924 Robert Gransden, farmer, Billimari

Service Record
Name GRANSDEN, STANLEY CHARLES
Service Australian Army Service Number N272617
Date of Birth 3 Dec 1894 Place of Birth TOOGONG, NSW
Date of Enlistment 25 Jun 1941 Locality of Enlistment ORANGE, NSW
Place of Enlistment PADDINGTON, NSW
Next of Kin GRANSDEN, MURIEL
Date of Discharge 9 Nov 1945 Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 2 FARM COMPANY AASC

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran
Lowered his age so that he could participate in the War, when he did this he also changed his name, so that he would not be found out. He spent most of the war at Tennants Creek in Outback Australia.


Marriage certificate showed Fobert Gransden as a Farmer, living in Nillimere NSW. Conjugal Status- Bachelor. Place of birth Toogong, NSW. Age at time of marriage 23.

Muriel Gertrude Bryant [Parents] was born 1 in Aug 1899 in Walli, NSW, Australia. She died 2 on 17 Jul 1991 in Canowindra, NSW, Australia. The cause of death was Myocardial Infarction 5 days. She was buried 3 on 22 Jul 1991 in Anglican Cemetery Orange. She married 4 Robert Stanley Gransden on 11 Jul 1918 in All Saints Church Canowindra, Boree Shire.

Occupation at time of marriage- Home Duties.
Place of Residence- Bangaroo, NSW.
Conjugal Status- Spinster. Age at marriage- 18 years old

Address at time of death
Moyne Eventide Nursing Home, Canowindra.

Children of deceased- at time of death- Valerie 72 years, Walter 71, Betty deceased, Thora 66, Shirley 64, Douglas, 63, Keith 60, Margaret 57, Norma 55. (Valerie maybe Joan Vera, Garth not mentioned).

Cause of death Myocardial Infaction 5 days and generalised atherolsclerosis 10 years.

Informant Norma Jones- daughter 36 Lawson Crescent Orange.

Buried 22nd July 1991
Anglican Cemetery Orange.

Age at marriage 18 years.

Obituary Notice;
July 19 1991- notice recieved from Margaret Clough, name of paper not noted- probably a local Orange News Paper.
DEATHS
Gransden, Muriel Gertrude. 17th July, 1991 at Canowindra. Late of Moyne Eventide Home. Canowindra and formerly of Orange. Beloved wife of Robert (dec'd). Loving mother and mother-in-law of Joan and Stan Ipsen (Cootes Crossing) Garth and Freda Gransden (Dubbo), Betty Burt (dec'd), Thora and Keith Baker (Orange), Shirley and Bill Guest (Coraki), Doug and June Gransden (Orange), Keith and Pat Gransden (Malaney), Margaret and Max Clough (Orange), Norma and John Jones (Orange). Loved Nanna of her grand-children and great-grandchildren. Loved sister of Lola (Mrs Baker, Kograh). "In God's Keeping." Aged 90 years

FUNERALS
July 19 1991- notice recieved from Margaret Clough, name of paper not noted- probably a local Orange News Paper.
Gransden._ The Relatives and Friends of the late Mrs Muriel Gertrude Gransden of Moyne Eventide Home, Canowindra and formerly of Orange, are respectfully invited to attend her funeral to leave the Holy Trinity Anglican Church, Byng Street Orange after a service commencing at 11.00am MONDAY (22nd July), thence for internment in the Anglican portion of the Orange Cemetery.
Norman J. Penhall Funerals
FDA (NSW)
33 William Street Orange
Phone 62 3751

August 24 1991- notice recieved from Margaret Clough, name of paper not noted- probably a local Orange News Paper.
THE FAMILY of the late Muriel Gransden wish to thank Father Brian Goff, and Father John Parkes, Norm and Deidre Penhall, Holy Trinity Choir, Charlie Gunner, Drs and nursing staff of Moyne Canowindra and all the relatives and friends for their expressions of sympathy and floral tributes. Please accept this as our personal thanks as many address are unkown.

They had the following children:

  F i Living
  M ii Living
  F iii Living
  F iv Living
  F v Living
  M vi Douglas Gransden
  M vii Living
  F viii Living
  F ix Living

James Carter [Parents] 1 was born 2 in 1847 in Probably Berkshire, England. He married 3 Catherine Selina Lees on 22 Sep 1873 in Eumanglah, Warren NSW, Australia.

Immigration April 1853, Sacramento- shipwrecked

The Shingled Hut
There was once a well-known wayside inn called The Shingle Hut, at the junction of Marthaguy and Merri Merri Creeks, about 10 miles from Carinda on the Quambone Road. It began it's life as The Shingled House kept by Gottlieb Eckhert in 1873. James and Catherine Carter took over The Shingled House and reared a young family there. Ons small daughter, Selina May aged two years was buried in 1883, in the small cemetery on the opposite side of th road.
The Inn was called "The Junction" for a period of time, but later on reverted to "The Shingled Hut". James joseph and Catherine Carter were in turn Licencees between 1879 and 1891. Catherine Selina Carter died in 1894 aged 43. James Carter's son-in-law Bill Young took over the licence of the inn, but some of the Carter family remained in residence at The Shingled Hut.
Young Jim Carter married and moved to Qumabone where he conducted a carrying business for some time before buying the general store and trading as Carter & Co. His daughter Miss Dulcie Carter carried on this business until 1951. Jim Carter was born at Haddon Rig, before his parents took over management of the inn.
Settlers on the Marthaguy by Marion Dormer and Joan Starr 1979- ISBN 062-621-431

The Shingled Hut
The Shingled Hut stood for many years, near where the Merri Merri Creek joins the Marthaguy Creek on "Lowlands", and because of this it was also known as the Junction Hotel. It was originally established as a combined store and coach stop for Cobb and Co. mail coaches and teamsters and after a number of years, in 1873, a licence was granted for the sale of liquor.
The original buildings of the Shingle Hut were the kitchen, which was a seperate building, a combined coach house, stalls, store, and area set aside for postal business, private rooms and bar and cellar. The building was of cypress pine post and slabs. The posts were huge and the beautiful workmanship had to be seen to be believed. The walls were of slabs, some split but mostly pit sawn bearers and joints. These were all adzed but the rafters were small round lengths of cypress pine with pit sawn battens and the whole building was roofed with cypress pine shingles which were cut about half an inch thick, six inches wide and fifteen to eighteen inches long.
In later years the roof was covered with corrugated iron. The kitchen section had a tramped earth floor whereas the main building had a pit sawn timber floor.
The furniture in the building was all handmade including scrubbed white pine tables. There was a long stove and a very large open fireplace, a baking oven and a luxry of luxuries, a "Sam Wellar" double oven cooking range.
The workmanship was of very high standard and nails were not plentiful when the building was constructed. It was an exhibition of beautifully worked morticing, pegging and dovetailing. The water and feed troughs were hollowed out logs....
In time, these buildings were all dismantled and much of the materials were used to build part of the present 'Lowlands" homestead and sheds, and there is very little left to show the passer-by where this fine building once stood....
The Shingle Hut was quite notorious as a "lambing down" hotel. Definition taken from Webster's New International Dictionary IInd. Ed.
Lamb Done: a. To spend recklessly, to knock down
b. To induce to spend money recklessly.
The history of Carinda by Margaret Johnston and kay Marman ISBN 0 959244700

James Carter Insovlvency files -5 Sep 1879
James was declared insovant to the sum 90/5/10 some of the items he was found to be owing money on included leather, matches, tobacco, salmon, tapioca, sardines, black pepper, caraway seeds, blacking, apples, a sausage machine. For the first hearing James did not turn up. At a later hearing the creditors requested that the property be sequestrated for the benefit of the auditors. James attributed his inability to pay to a large amount of money being owed to him and a general depression that his the pastoral district particulalry hard. He also points out that he has other creditors and by sequestrating his property the courts would be denying other creditors their right also to be paid back money owed them.
This case went to the supreme court of NSW
When listing people who owed him money most of the money he was owed was for food sold to locals including a number of people listed as living at The Shingle Hut.

James Carter's insolvency problems must have been resolved as he continued to hold the licenc from 1878-1888 and Catherine Carter then held the licence from 1888-1891

Catherine Selina Lees [Parents] was born about 1850 in Lachlan River, Forbes, NSW. She died 1 on 19 Feb 1894 in Merri Merri Creek, Coonamble NSW. She was buried 2 on 20 Feb 1894 in Merri Merri Creek, Coonamble NSW. She married 3 James Carter on 22 Sep 1873 in Eumanglah, Warren NSW, Australia.

Buried in a private grave opposite the site of the Shingle Hut with her daughter Selina May.
Cause of Death: Measles- acute delirious mania.
Occupation Home duties.

Tomb Stone reads
Catherine Selina
the beloved wife of
James Carter
who departed this life
19th Feby 1894
Aged 43 Years
Short was the call that our dear
mother heard from above.
Not a word to her loved ones could
say.
Her eyes closed in death as a
babe in its sleep
As she silently passed away.
Also
Selina May Carter
daughter of the above
died 21st May 1883
Aged 2 years.
Errected by her affectionate
husband and children.

They had the following children:

  F i Elizabeth Carter was born 1 in 1866 in Dubbo, NSW, Australia.
  M ii Andrew James Carter
  M iii William Carter was born 1 about 1870 in Haddon Rig, Warren, NSW, Australia.
  F iv Ada Amelia Carter
  F v Annie Carter was born 1 about 1871.
  F vi Abertha Blanche Carter
  M vii Charles Macquarie Carter was born in 1876.

No issue, never married
  M viii Henry Lachlan Carter
  M ix Joseph Hillston Carter
  M x William John Carter was born 1 in 1878 in Haddon Rig, Warren, NSW, Australia. He died 2 on 30 Sep 1878 in "Pine Ridge" Merri Merri, NSW, Australia. The cause of death was Whooping Cough. He was buried 3 in "Pine Ridge" Merri Merri, NSW, Australia.
  M xi Hector Norman Carter
  F xii Selina May Carter was born 1 in 1881 in Walgett, NSW, Australia. She died 2 on 21 May 1883 in Merri Merri Creek, Warren, NSW, Australia. She was buried 3 in Merri Merri Creek, Warren, NSW, Australia.

Buried in a private grave opposite the site of the "Shingle Hut" withe her mother.

Tomb Stone reads
Catherine Selina
the beloved wife of
James Carter
who departed this life
19th Feby 1894
Aged 43 Years
Short was the call that our dear
mother heard from above.
Not a word to her loved ones could
say.
Her eyes closed in death as a
babe in its sleep
As she silently passed away.
Also
Selina May Carter
daughter of the above
died 21st May 1883
Aged 2 years.
Errected by her affectionate
husband and children.
  M xiii Alfred Thomas Carter
  M xiv Richard Phillip Carter
  F xv Alice Louisa Rose Carter
  F xvi Kathleen Maud Carter was born 1 in 1891 in Warren, NSW, Australia. She died in 1898 in Walgett NSW Australia. She was buried 2 on 2 Jan 1898 in Junction Hotel, Walgett, NSW, Australia.
  F xvii Mabel Edna Carter

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