John Robert Gransden

  General Notes:

Possible apprenticeship
UK, Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures, 1710-1811 Record for Wm Ottaway
Name: Wm Ottaway. Residence: Chatham, Co. of Kent: Carpenter (ve?) John Gransden (1805)
Accessed through Ancestry.com
(This would make sense as John came from a long line of Carpenters)

John Gransden 28 May 1811 Master of the Royal Navy
The Navy List. Commisioners for Executing The Office of Lord High Admiral of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=0xYYAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA37&lpg=RA1-PA37&dq=John+Gransden&source=bl&ots=r55zTtEPo9&sig=cPmSME-sXUW722HjuZoQrZFSILY&hl=en&ei=PFSiTazGMNG6cdOigOEB&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAzgU#v=onepage&q=John%20Gransden&f=false
(Accessed 11th April 2011)

Steel's Navy Lists 1812
Masters 1806-1812
John Gransden 1095 (1095=Laurestinus)

Navy LIsts 1813 Jan John Gransden 224 (224=Belle Poule)

Navy Lists 1815 John Gransden 224 (224=Belle Poule) Belle Poule F- what does the F mean?

Navy Lists 1820 (Names) John Gransden (Seniority) 28 May 11
National Archives (Britain) (Courtesty of Forefathers Research)

ADM 37-1040 Muster Book of HMS Ticker Jan 1809-Jun 1809
No 3. 9 March 1809 Appearance 9 March. Present. Dating Order from Adm Wally 4 March 1809. Name Jno Gransden. Qualities Master.

ADM 37-2959 Muster Book of HMS Tickler May 1811- Aug 1812
No. 3 Entry 1 July Year 1810 Appearance July 1, Whence and whether prest or not (in former books). Place and County where born- Order from Admir Mills 4 March 1809 No. and Letter of Tickets ENSL Mens Names: Jn Gransden. Qualities Acting Master. Disembarkation? Dec 31st? Year 1811. Wither and for what reasons 31 Dec 1811 Laurestinus on Promotion.
Date of the Parties Order for alloting monthly pay 1 Sep 1810

National Archives ADM 37-3845 Muster Book of HMS Laurestinus Feb 1812-Nov 1813
No. 115 Entry 4 June 1811. First Appearance 4 June
Whence- Deptford. Place and County Where Born Warrant? 28 May 1811. ES792? John Gransden Master. D? Discharge 30th Aug. 30 Aug 1812 Superseeded. Paid by Bill. OL 7 July (On leave?) 1812
10th January Bermuda
17th January- At Sea, continues to 21st Feby Chesapeake, 28 Feby At Sea.
No. 5. Entry 1 Feby Year 1812 Appearance Feby 1 Whence and whether prest or not F. B. Place and County where born Per Warrant. Jno Gransden Master 1812 Superseeded.


Name: Gransden, John
Record Type: Departures
Title: Mr
Rank: 1st Officer
Departure date: 3 Nov 1819
Departure port: Hobart
Ship: David Shaw
Bound to: Port Jackson
Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:554958
Resource CUS33/1/3 p74
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=Gransden (Accessed 2nd Feb 2016)

Saturday 4th December 1819 The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser
Mr John Gransden, Chief Officer, of the David Shaw, leaving the colony all claims to be presented. 1

Saturday 11th December 1819 The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser
Mr John Gransden, Chief Officer, of the David Shaw, leaving the colony all claims to be presented. 2

The Morning Chronicle, London. 13th November 1820.

Ship News.
Extract of a private letter, dated Portsmouth, nov. 9-
"Last night arrived in Cowes roads the American ship Bengal, 95 days from the Straits of Sundra; she left lying in Samarang roads the ships Claudine and Maiahar, for Europe, the latter to sail about the middle of August. The country ship Georgiana, Worthington, left Tangier, for the Isle of France and Liverpool, the 2d August. The Ductch expedition against the Palembrang, left Batavia 31st July, consisting of one 74 razee, one 60 gun ship, three frigates, nine ship sloops, and about 100 gun vessels, and a large proportion of flat boats to disembark troops; a number of British, and other vessels, had been taken up to transport troops, stores &c. The Dutch , having been twice before defeated, doubts were entertained at Batavia of their success, particularly as it was well known the Raja of Palemhang was well prepared to receive them. The Dutch, from want of energy, or a sufficient force, had allowed the Pirates to go so long unchastised, that their ships and settlements, as well as the shops of other nations, were suffering every indignity. The -Malays were now so daring, that they fitted out single prows of large dimensions to attack European ships- formerly they never thought of attacking, unless a large fleet of their own prows were in company. On the 8th of June the Dutch ship Samarang, Captain Jagers, was attacked on the north side of Java, to the east of Samarang, by a pirate prow; the successive attacks lasted four hours, during which the Samarang lost her Captain and one seaman killed, the chief Mate and ten seamen wounded; however, as night came on the pirate was obliged to lay-to to repair damages, when fortunately two sail coming in sight, the pirate made off. The Samarang's crew consisted of the Captain, Mare, Mr. J. Gransden, passenger, and 32 Malay seamen, who behaved well. The Samarang mounts six sixty pounders, besides swivels and small arms."


2516 Granston, John arrived from Hobart Town 21 May 1834 to Sydney 1 Jun 1834.
SMH 2 Jun 1834 (Possibly this John Gransden, possibly not)

663. JOHN JOHNSON and JOSEPH JONES were indicted for stealing, on the 9th of February , 1 petticoat, value 2s.; 2 pillow-cases, value 2s.; 1 habit-shirt, value 6d.; 2 stockings, value 6d.; 2 pieces of dimity, value 6d.; 1 handkerchief, value 6d.; 1 napkin, value 1s.; 2 gloves, value 6d.; 1 sheet, value 2s.; 1 pelisse, value 6s.; 2 gowns, value 6s.; 1 cloak, value 6s.; 2 aprons, value 4s.; I cap, value 1s.; 1 pair of pockets, value 6d., and 1 pocket-book, value 1s. , the goods of John Gransden .

JOHN GRANSDEN . I am an officer in the Navy , and live at Deptford. On the 9th of February we were going from London in a light cart, and had a trunk with us, containing all the things here enumerated; I put the trunk into the cart; I did not miss it till I got to my own house, which was in about an hour; we set off about five o'clock in the evening.

JANE ANN GRANSDEN . I am the prosecutor's wife - I packed up the trunk - some of the articles are here, and I can swear to them; they are my husband's, and had belonged to my late mother - I was in the cart, but did not miss the trunk out of it.

JOSEPH PALMER . I live with my father at Walworth. On Monday week last I was at my father's till about one o'clock in the day - I afterwards went to the Bricklayers' Arms - I saw the two prisoners there, whom I knew, and I joined them; we saw a cart, which belonged to John Chapple , of Deptford, going down the Bermondsey New-road ; I knew Charles Sims , the driver, and spoke to him: the prisoners were with me; Jones said it was a good speck if I would like to go; Johnson was present; we followed the cart, and Johnson cut the cord which had tired this box on the tail-board - I lifted the box off just beyond the St. Helena turnpike , and set it down in the road - Jones was just behind me, and Johnson just behind him I believe; I am sure he was present; Jones picked the box up, andset it down in a ditch to conceal it; in a short time I came up and got it out - Johnson was not present then - but after Jones and I had carried it a short distance we saw him, and gave him the box; he carried it about half the distance from there to the Docks, and then Jones and I carried it; we took it down into some mud at the back of the canal-bridge and took out these articles, which we put about the waistbands of our breeches, and in different parts; Jones said we were to take them to Lewis', in Rosemary-lane - we all went there; Jones went into Lewis' house -Lewis' boy then came and called me in; I took the things off my person and left them there; Lewis was present - it was in a back room adjoining the shop; I then went out and sent Johnson in; they were there a long time; Lewis' boy came and beckoned me in again, and Johnson came out- Lewis said they were worth nothing to him, they did not suit him, he had no call in the country for such things as these - they were almost all female appared; we packed the things about our persons again; either Lewis or his boy called Johnson in again, and he packed some things about his person and some in a bag; Lewis then went to the door, and said the officers were looking about - they were larafied, or some such word; he said the officers were gone, and we had better make the best of our way up Lion-street; Johnson went out first, I went next, and Jones a little time after; Lewis said we had better go out together; Jones said to Lewis, "Are the things not worth any thing?" and said they came a long way from there.

Prisoner JONES. He came to us, and said he knew the boy belonging to the cart; and he knew he could steal the things from the cart if I would go with him. Witness. No such thing.

THOMAS FOGG . I am an officer. On Monday week I saw the prisoners coming out of Lewis' shop in Rosemary-lane; I stopped Jones and Johnson, Till stopped Palmer; I found in a bag on Johnson some of these things - my brother searched Jones; I was going by, and Lewis said he had three chaps in there with something that was not right.

JAMES FOGG . I was in the lane at the time; I searched Jones, and found some of these articles on him, inside his waistcoat and trousers, and some in his cap; I afterwards found a pair of gloves in Palmer's pocket; they said they had found the things in a field just beyond Whitechapel turnpike; Palmer said he knew where, but it was best known to himself; Lewis told us he thought they came from over the water.

JAMES TILL . I searched Palmer, and found a silk cloak, two aprons, and some other articles marked R. B.; this was about eight o'clock in the evening.

JANE ANN GRANSDEN . These things are my husband's; the letters R. B. are my mother's initials.

Johnson put in a written defence, stating that Palmer had induced him to commit the robbery, and threatened to injure him if he did not cut the string of the box.

JOHNSON - GUILTY . Aged 13.

JONES - GUILTY . Aged 15.

Transported for Seven Years .
(Old Bailey- http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18290219-137&div=t18290219-137&terms=Gransden#highlight- accessed 7th October 2011) Original record as well as transcription saved.

Probable burial for John Robert Gransden
Burials St. Nicholas Deptford in the County of Kent in the year 1830.
Name- John Robert Gransden. Abode- Darlington Place, Creek Road. When Buried- 16th of June. Age- 47. By whom the ceremony was performed- D. Jones, Curate.

John married Jane Ann Bingley on 1 Jan 1816 in Wymering, Hampshire, England ¹²⁵.^,332 (Jane Ann Bingley died on 10 Jul 1862 in Peckham, Surrey, England ³³⁴.)

  Marriage Notes:

John Robert Gransde of this Parish, Porter, bacherlor and Jane Ann Bingley of this Parish, spinster were married in this Church by Licence on this first day of January in the year one thousand and sixteen by me James Helville, Curate.
This marriage was solemnized between u J. R. Gransden and Jane Anne Bingley. In the presence of William Blackman
Hampshire Archives and Local Studies
Hampshire Record Office
Sussex Street, Winchester, Hants SO23 8TH
Email: enquiries.archives@hants.gov.uk
Tel: 01962 846154; Fax: 01962 878681
Text Phone: 0808 100 2484