Greatheads- or not so Great!

I started doing week three of the FutureLearn Genealogy: Researching your Family Tree course today. https://www.futurelearn.com/courses We are learning all about different repositories for genealogical information. As a result people were putting up different links to sites that they had found were particularly useful. Someone put up a link to http://www.digitalnz.org/records. This repository does all sorts of Newspapers and photos and a whole different bunch of useful records.

I have very few ancestors who lived in New Zealand but I do have three, Robert Lucas, his wife Jane Lucas nee Greathead and their daughter Ella Dorothea Kate Bryant nee Lucas. So, just to have a bit of a play I started playing around with the search functions to see what I could find. I didn’t find Ella Lucas or Jane Lucas nee Greathead but I did come up with a photo for an Elizabeth Lucas nee Voller.

Photograph Elizabeth Lucas ca 1870s Title: Photograph: Elizabeth Lucas Date of Work: ca 1870s Search Dates: 01 Jan 1870 - 31 Dec 1870 Reference Number: 00-123/1 Record Number: 562398 http://masterton.spydus.co.nz/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/OPAC/ARCENQ?RNI=562398

Photograph Elizabeth Lucas
ca 1870s
Title: Photograph: Elizabeth Lucas
Date of Work: ca 1870s
Search Dates: 01 Jan 1870 – 31 Dec 1870
Reference Number: 00-123/1
Record Number: 562398 http://masterton.spydus.co.nz/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/OPAC/ARCENQ?RNI=562398

Along with the photo was a tantalising piece of information- Photograph of Elizabeth Lucas dressed in a white lace collar.; Biography / History: Elizabeth Lucas was the daughter of Elizabeth and Abraham Voller. She arrived in Nelson in 1843 and married Robert Lucas in 1850. She died in 1861 at the age of 33 and was buried in the area of the Tauherenikau Race Course. Her body was exhumed in 1862 and re-buried at the Featherston Cemetery. Robert Lucas died in 1877 following head injuries after he fell from a horse.

Clearly this family has an interesting family history that I have to follow up. I knew of the Elizabeth Voller marriage. I also had some idea of an accident being the cause of death of Robert Lucas but I did not have much in the way of detail.

Along with the photograph of Elizabeth Lucas was this photo of a Robert Lucas.

 

Mr Robert Lucas. Nelson Provincial Museum, Tyree Studio Collection: 39769 http://collection.nelsonmuseum.co.nz/search.do?db=object&view=detail&id=216251

Mr Robert Lucas. Nelson Provincial Museum, Tyree Studio Collection: 39769
http://collection.nelsonmuseum.co.nz/search.do?db=object&view=detail&id=216251

I am uncertain if this is my Robert Lucas. The photo is the right place and the right name but at this stage I do not have confirmation. Robert Lucas was a solicitor at the time of his marriage to Jane Isabella Greathead in 1869, so the clothing is a possible match. At this stage I need to do more research to say for sure that this is my Robert Lucas but it is certainly quite probable.

So this is most certainly a site that I need to explore more. I hardly did any searches and came way with one correct Lucas, one possible Lucas and so far no Greatheads. But very much a starting point to look into more carefully for information on this family. Plus there was an obvious fall from a horse resulting in head injuries that will have to be further explored.


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Greatheads- or not so Great! — 8 Comments

  1. Hello, good to see these photos. I have gathered much on Robert Lucas (1816-1877 NZ) and the Lucas family history back to the early 1600s in England. I also have a photo of Jane Isabella Greathead I obtained. Robert Lucas emigrated from Bristol, England in 1842. He is probably the Robert Lucas (clerk of the horse racing club) “buried where the horses gallop” at “The Tin Hut” Tauherenikau, Wairarapa, NZ. Drop me an email if it is all of interest.

    • Be aware that in looking through my notes there was another Robert Lucas of Nelson who was also born in the area around Bristol but was not related. He was also the Son of a Samuel Lucas and married an Elizabeth [but Eliz. Anne Pritchard] – Very confusing! That Robert didn’t arrive in NZ until later in 1859 and stayed in Nelson until his death in 1876. He had a book printing company in Bridge Street, Nelson and a son Robert Stepney Lucas. He is most easily differentiated by newspaper articles. More on him is can be found from this researcher here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lucas-5306

    • Hi,

      Robert was my great great great grandfather and I think he sailed to NZ on the Thomas Sparks. Elizabeth was Voller but am pretty sure her father changed his name from Werner. Any info, refs, pics, anything at all you could share with me on this tree, would be greatly appreciated. I believe the picture is of the Nelson news paper owner not our Robert, but the above info is accurate according to my family. Anything I can help you with please just ask.

      Cheers

      Tony Lucas

      • Hi Tony, I believe that you could be right. I am in contact with other family members that are currently helping me further with this branch of the family. I will contact you.

  2. Elizabeth VOLLER’s parents were Abraham VOLLER (known as ‘Jerry’) and Elisabeth JONES who were married at Ore (next to Hastings), Sussex, England on 01 Aug 1827. When their three daughters Elizabeth 1827, Mary Ann 1830 and Jane 1834 were baptised at Ore, Abraham was known as WARNER. In the 1841 census the family name is written as WELLER. They emigrated to NZ in 1842 on the ship Thomas Sparkes.

    Also emigrating to NZ in 1842, on the ship Olympus, were Richard WARNER & Eliza WRIGHT & son Richard, also from Ore. Both Abraham VOLLER & Richard WARNER escaped the s0-called Wairau Massacre at Tuamarina in 1853.

    Eliza WRIGHT died early 1865 and it is said that her and Richard’s youngest children Abraham WARNER & Martha WARNER were raised out of the family. Martha was adopted by a family called JERVIS at Richmond. On his marriage and death registrations, Abraham WARNER’s mother is given as Mary DOUGLAS. For various reasons I am confident that Mary DOUGLAS was actually Mary Ann VOLLER the daughter of Abraham VOLLER. She married James MARSH in 1850 but had lots of children to Hugh DOUGLAS (marriage not found, assuming one exists).

    Richard WARNER’s mother Elizabeth died at Ore in 1851, the informant at the death being Sarah Ann VOLLER. I think she was Mary Ann FOORD who married Robert VOLLER at Ore in 1843, with the latter actually being Robert VOLLER the brother of Richard WARNER.

    Eliza WRIGHT’s brother William was transported to Van Dieman’s Land for 14 years in 1842, 7 years of which was for, in his own words(Tasmania archives, “…stealing my sister’s watch.” The Sussex Advertiser reported the trial saying that the owner of the watch was Richard VOLLER. That means that Richard WARNER was also known as Richard VOLLER. Upon marriage
    a wife’s became her husband’s possessions, so from a legal point of view in a court case the watch would certainly be described as Richard’s watch.

    Abraham VOLLER was baptised 1804 to John VOLLLER & Elizabeth WARNER who were married at DURLEY in Hampshire in 1803.

    All in all, that’s a lot of WARNER versus VOLLER swap-arounds naming-wise for these people. I have wondered if John VOLLER & Elizabeth WARNER the parents of Abraham wee one and the same as Joseph & Elizabeth WARNER at Ore many years later, the parents of Richard WARNER, which would explain why Abraham’s daughter Mary Ann as Mary DOUGLAS might look after Richard & Elizabeth’s youngest son Abraham after Eliza died, but it’s a heck of a stretch name-wise and has to be classed as sheer speculation.

    MARRIAGES – 1800-1836 Durley, Southampton, Hampshire, ENGLAND
    Date 20 Sep 1803
    Surname VOLLER
    1st Name John
    Parish Southwick
    Spouse Surname WARNER
    Spouse 1st Name Elizabeth
    Spouse Parish Durley

    Hampshire Record Office,
    Ref: 37M73/PO37/6
    Title: Removal Order: John VOLLER, wife Elizabeth and son Abraham (4 years), removed from Durley.
    Date: 9 May 1809
    “County of Southhampton
    To the Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of the Parish of Durley in the said County and to the Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of the Parish of Titchfield in the County aforesaid ——
    Upon the complaint of the Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of the Parish of Durley aforesaid in the County of Southhampton unto us whose names are hereunto affixed being two? of HM (His Majesty’s?) Justices of the Peace in and for the said County that:
    John Voller his wife Elizabeth and Abraham his son now aged four years have come to inhabit in the Parish of Durley not having gained a legal settlement there nor produced any certificate owning them or any of them to be settled elsewhere and that the said John Voller, Elizabeth his wife and Abraham their child are actually become chargeable to the Parish of Durley. We, the said Justices, upon our proof made thereof as well as upon the Examination of the said John Voller as otherwise and likewise upon our consideration had of the premises? do adjudge the same to be true and we do likewise adjudge that the lawful settlement of these John Voller, Elizabeth his wife and their son Abraham is in the Parish of Titchfield in the said County and so, therefore, require you the said Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of the Parish of Durley or some or one of you to convey the said John Voller Elizabeth his wife and Abraham their son from and out of the said Parish of Durley to the said Parish of Titchfield and them to deliver to the Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor there or some or one of them together with this our order at the same time showing them the original and we do also hereby require you the Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of the Parish of Titchfield to receive and provide for them as inhabitants of your Parish. Given under our hands and seals, the ninth day of May in the forty ninth year of the reign of our sovereign Lord King George the Third.”

    http://www.a2a.org.uk/
    East Sussex Record Office
    PARISH OF WINCHELSEA
    Catalogue Ref. PAR511
    Former Catalogue Ref. PAR511
    Creator(s):
    Church of England, Winchelsea Parish, East Sussex
    Settlement – ref. PAR511/32
    Removal orders from Winchelsea
    FILE – Removal order from Winchelsea – ref. PAR511/32/2/81 – date: 29 Nov 1825
    [from Scope and Content] Abraham VOLLER (21) and his sister Ann VOLLER (12); to Titchfield in Hampshire.

    01 Aug 1827
    Marriage @ Ore, Sussex, England :
    Abraham VOLLER = Elizabeth JONES
    Elizabeth WARNER bap 07/10/1827 @ Ore, to Abraham & Elizabeth WARNER, Abraham a labourer
    Mary Ann WARNER bap 05/12/1830 @ Ore, to Abraham & Elizabeth WARNER, Abraham a labourer
    Jane WARNER bap 02/10/1834 @ Ore, to Abraham & Elizabeth WARNER, Abraham a labourer

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    East Sussex Record Office
    PARISH OF HASTINGS ST CLEMENT
    Catalogue Ref. PAR367 , Former Catalogue Ref. PAR367
    Creator(s): Church of England, Hastings St Clement Parish, East Sussex
    Overseers of the Poor: settlement – ref. PAR367/32
    Removal orders to Hastings St Clement
    FILE – Removal order to Hastings St Clement and settlement examination – ref.PAR367/32/3/230 – date: 20 Dec 1838
    [from Scope and Content] Abraham VOLLER (34), wife Elizabeth, and his children Elizabeth (11), Mary Ann (8) and Jane (3); from Hastings All Saints; fifteen years ago he agreed with William HICKES of Burdett Place, Hastings St Clement, to serve him as a driver to a fly and general servant; left due to ill health and lived with friends at Winchelsea for fifteen months and then went to sea; 11 years ago he was married at Ore to Elizabeth and they have three children
    FILE – Removal order to Hastings St Clement – ref. PAR367/32/3/231 – date: 20 Dec 1838
    [from Scope and Content] Abraham VOLLER, wife Elizabeth, and his children Elizabeth (11), Mary Ann (8) and Jane (3); from Hastings All Saints

    06 Jun 1841 Census of England & Wales
    @ ??? White School, Guestling Rd, Ore, Sussex
    Abraham WELLER 35 Ag Lab Y
    Betsy WELLER 30 Y
    Betsy WELLER 13 Y
    Jane WELLER 06 Y

    Archives NZ – REPRO 6, Nelson papers NZC 234/2.
    Also, State Library of Victoria
    Register of Emigrant Labourers applying for Free Passage to New Zealand; Reel 1480, Piece 272, 273 and in CO208, Reel 2569 Piece 275 which is the Index to 272 and 273.
    Register of Emigrant Labourers applying for Free Passage to New Zealand [See Refgulations for the Selection of Emigrant Labourers]
    Mar 1842
    Application made to M.GILLINGHAM
    5379 EARLE Richard & Filly, 32 & 30 yrs, brickmaker, residence Oare near Hastings, 2 sons age 12, 10 and 1 daughter age 3.
    5380 WARNER Rich’d & Eliza, both 23 yrs, quarryman & blacksmith, residence Oare, near Hastings, one son aged 1 year, embarkation #2443.
    5381 VOLLER, Abraham & Eliz’th, 32 & 31 yrs, Ag. Lab’r & Bricklayer & Quarryman, 3 daughters age 13, 12, 7. Embarkation #2563.

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